Comments on: Follow-Up: Railo Announcement http://sacha.labourey.com/2008/06/10/follow-up-railo-announcement/ Onward! Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:19:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Peter Bell http://sacha.labourey.com/2008/06/10/follow-up-railo-announcement/#comment-306 Peter Bell Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:06:23 +0000 http://labourey.wordpress.com/?p=91#comment-306 Well, I'm a CF developer, but I like the meaningful whitespace in Python (although it can be a pain when doing template based code gen). I find that Python and CF have some of the same conceptual muddiness compared to something like Ruby where everything is an object. There are primitives, objects and a smattering of headless functions which make it difficult to create meaningful code completion as opposed to providing methods on objects. For example in CF there are Image functions as opposed to methods available on image objects. Python is going through "interesting times' as it moves to becoming a more OO language. For instance, there are still lots of deprecated features from 2.5.2 that will finally be removed in Py3k when it is released later this year. One driver of Python adoption recently is the support for Python in the Google App Engine (and in Google in general), and the Django framework is a Python only, full stack framework that does a really nice job of allowing you to build web apps (especially content management systems) quickly. Well, I’m a CF developer, but I like the meaningful whitespace in Python (although it can be a pain when doing template based code gen). I find that Python and CF have some of the same conceptual muddiness compared to something like Ruby where everything is an object. There are primitives, objects and a smattering of headless functions which make it difficult to create meaningful code completion as opposed to providing methods on objects. For example in CF there are Image functions as opposed to methods available on image objects.

Python is going through “interesting times’ as it moves to becoming a more OO language. For instance, there are still lots of deprecated features from 2.5.2 that will finally be removed in Py3k when it is released later this year.

One driver of Python adoption recently is the support for Python in the Google App Engine (and in Google in general), and the Django framework is a Python only, full stack framework that does a really nice job of allowing you to build web apps (especially content management systems) quickly.

]]> By: Sacha http://sacha.labourey.com/2008/06/10/follow-up-railo-announcement/#comment-296 Sacha Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:07:22 +0000 http://labourey.wordpress.com/?p=91#comment-296 Wiliam, Thanks for your encouragements. Out of curiosity, what do you like in Python that is missing from the other languages/environments? Cheers, Sacha Wiliam,

Thanks for your encouragements.

Out of curiosity, what do you like in Python that is missing from the other languages/environments?

Cheers,

Sacha

]]> By: WELCOME: Railo goes Open Source on JBoss.org « Sacha’s Weblog http://sacha.labourey.com/2008/06/10/follow-up-railo-announcement/#comment-294 WELCOME: Railo goes Open Source on JBoss.org « Sacha’s Weblog Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:10:28 +0000 http://labourey.wordpress.com/?p=91#comment-294 [...] I’ve posted a follow-up blog entry on that very topic… Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)BMW to drive [...] [...] I’ve posted a follow-up blog entry on that very topic… Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)BMW to drive [...]

]]> By: William Vambenepe http://sacha.labourey.com/2008/06/10/follow-up-railo-announcement/#comment-293 William Vambenepe Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:51 +0000 http://labourey.wordpress.com/?p=91#comment-293 My old memories of Cold Fusion aren't glowing but it took care of the easy web dev tasks better than anything else at the time. More importantly, anything that can mitigate the PHP mess is welcome in my book. Good luck to this effort. When I have a chance, I'll look into it to see how it's changed in the many years since. But it's going to be hard to beat the Python goodness that's already available. My old memories of Cold Fusion aren’t glowing but it took care of the easy web dev tasks better than anything else at the time. More importantly, anything that can mitigate the PHP mess is welcome in my book. Good luck to this effort. When I have a chance, I’ll look into it to see how it’s changed in the many years since. But it’s going to be hard to beat the Python goodness that’s already available.

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